Monday, October 31, 2011

Watching the Redistricting Debacle

PCN broadcast the redistricting committee's meeting today.  I watched part of it.  Should  you ever want to drain the civic energy or political optimism out of someone, show them the tape of that meeting.  The bulk of what I watched consisted of two men arguing over the proposed map (which viewers did not get to see -- its supposed to be up on the redistricting site within 24 hours).  They referred to Republican districts and Democratic districts.  It sounded to me like districts were targeted for deletion based on whether or not the person representing that district was going to be running again, or on the relative seniority of the person representing the district now.  (It's a first in last out situation apparently).

During the time I watched there was no real mention of how all this might affect the people living in the district.  It's all based on protecting party and incumbency.  There is talk of ONE public meeting, to be held in Harrisburg during the work day, to discuss the proposed new districts.  So I guess the only people whose opinions matter are lobbyists and political employees.  People who have to be at work, at a job that is not politically motivated, would have to take a vacation day, and that can be tricky on short notice.

It is so discouraging, not to mention an embarrassment.

(update:  politicspa has the maps: )

A Quick Look at Mark Levy

Montgomery County Prothonotary Mark Levy's reelection campaign does not have a website.  For those who are not familiar with the office of prothonotary, the staff there keeps records of civil actions.  Divorce, custody, medical malpractice, drivers license suspensions, and other civil cases are filed and recorded by the prothonotary and his staff. 

Levy is running for his second term.  How did his first term go?  This is the description from the Montgomery County Democrats site:

Prothonotary Levy has come under budget and has been a poster boy for doing more with less. He has been able to reduce the size of his office through attrition, and improve services, decrease expenses, and add efficiency through an updated system under the watch of the county judiciary and bar association. In the meantime he was voted Courthouse Employee of the year with the unanimous support of the Montgomery Bar Association-not to mention at the end of his first term will be able to have been able to return $8 million dollars in surplus to help relieve the burden on the taxpayer. His proudest accomplishment in office has been drastically reducing the wait time for victims of domestic abuse in obtaining a Protection from Abuse order.

Levy is an army veteran and Temple graduate.

A Quick Look at Jason Salus

Jason Salus is the Democratic candidate for Montgomery County treasurer.  He is currently a Borough Councilman in Conshohocken and before that served on the Conshohocken Planning Commission.  In 2010 the county commissioners appointed him to the Montgomery County Industrial Development Authority.  Salus has earned an MBA from Temple and a B.S. in Finance from Penn State.  In Conshohocken he supported an audit measure that collected $1 million in delinquent taxes.  He has six years experience in forensic accounting, uncovering millions of dollars of waste, fraud and abuse in the private and public sectors. 

For more information see his campaign website ( and the Montgomery Democrats site (

Schwartz Supports Fix to Medicare

from last week's inbox:

U.S. Reps. Allyson Schwartz (D-PA) and Phil Roe (R-TN) continue to garner bipartisan support to repeal the Medicare physician payment system. Drawing health policy experts from across the ideological spectrum, Schwartz and Roe hosted a briefing today to highlight the broad bipartisan support for a comprehensive fix to the flawed sustainable growth rate (SGR) formula. Since 2003, Congress has taken steps each year to override the cuts required by the flawed SGR formula. Unless Congress acts again before the end of this year, physicians treating Medicare patients will see their reimbursements cut by 29.5 percent beginning on January 1, 2012.
Recently, Schwartz and Roe secured support from more than 115 members of Congress to call on the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction to repeal SGR and include a comprehensive fix in their proposal to Congress next month.
“For years, the cost of this failed policy has been hidden by short-term fixes,” Schwartz said. “There is overwhelming bipartisan support, coupled with tremendous fiscal urgency, to finally enact a long-term SGR fix.  We have a choice: continue distorting the picture of our nation’s fiscal status, or restore fiscal discipline and certainty by eliminating the $300 billion debt that has accumulated as a result of the SGR. The super committee should use this historic opportunity to set out a clear path towards comprehensive Medicare payment reform. Our seniors and America’s fiscal health are counting on it.”
“To ensure patient access to physician care, we must permanently fix the Medicare sustainable growth rate formula (SGR),” Roe said. “Physicians are currently threatened with a 29.5 percent cut in their payments unless Congress can end these budgetary games. A cut of this magnitude would leave many, if not most, Medicare patients without access to physicians.  Fixing the SGR will help bring stability to our medical system.”

Thursday, October 27, 2011

Kitchen Table Patriots on PCN

I caught PCN's Call In Show with the Kitchen Table Patriots.  It is still up on the PCN website but may disappear soon.  If you are interested please take some time to watch and typed up my rough notes.  The guest's have the same initials and similar names so I used somewhat unusual initials to differentiate them, even so it is possible that in places I might have typed in one set of initials when it should have been the other.  This is not intended as a full transcript, only a representation of my notes.  I apologize in advance for any errors or misconceptions.  If readers want to see the full interview and it is no longer on the PCN website I believe PCN sells tapes of some shows, and would advise interested parties to look into that option.

 Moderator:  Matt Hall

With us in our studio for next hour are Ana Puig (PU) and Anastasia Przybylski (PZ) of the Kitchen Table Patriots.

MH:  What are the Kitchen Table Patriots?

PZ: we are a grassroots organization that started as a tea party.  At one meeting over 2000 people came and Ana Puig spoke.  Since we were mothers the media called us the Kitchen Table Patriots.

PU: We needed a bigger voice.  We started doing town halls and here we are today coming to Harrisburg frequently, talking to candidates, picking candidates running for office, affecting legislation.

MH:  Occupy Wall Street, what is your take?

PZ:  They have signs that say “we are the 99%.”  I’m part of the 99% and I don’t feel the way they feel.  Messaging has gotten away from what capitalism is, now its socialism vs capitalism.

PU:  They are asking the government to do something that government has never done before.  Not like tea party.  I want no handouts.  We’re nothing like this movement.

PZ:  They’re demonizing this one person [percent?].  They’re like the looters in Atlas Shrugged.

PU:  That one percent has created jobs.  That’s what American is all about.  A lot of that one percent have worked hard.

MH:  quote from Chris Christie, Occupy Wall Street like tea party.  Any common ground?

PU:  I ‘ve been in Harrisburg for 2 days.  I’ve seen the same people sitting at Occupy Harrisburg.  They should be looking for jobs.  That is not what tea party is about.

PZ:  right now what we’re feeling is people are out of work and worried.  Tea party concerned about direction country is going.  In Doylestown a great artsy little town, they moved in there and started protesting in the businesses that are providing jobs.  Organizing by a woman running unopposed for office in Bucks County. 

PU:  we are a bipartisan organization and would gladly support Democrats that are supporting what we are doing fiscally.  But they align themselves with these groups so we have no choice but to support Republicans.

Caller:  tea party aligned with corporate interests not citizens interests.

PU:  not at all, against government interference, about letting business succeed

PZ:  my parents stated with nothing.  We lived in a trailer.  They worked hard.  Their house is paid off.  My husband and I drive old cars.  Not looking at neighbors to take what they have.  If I owe so much money and look to government to bail me out what is my incentive to be responsible?

PU:  I was born in Brazil, came here at age 14 with parents.  American dream, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.  Can become anybody if you work hard.  That’s what tea party movement is all about.  That’s what empowered me to get off my couch and stop screaming at the tv.

Caller:  Occupy Wall Street, many of them are students or graduates with deep student debt, going for American dream.  With job situation, can only find part time work or won’t pay enough to pay off debt.  Kids blame government but I understand why movement is there

PZ:  I understand.  College has become very expensive.  Why?  Two decades with money so easy for people to go into debt.  College become more expensive.  I graduated with student loans.  My husband did too.  It took us about 11 years to pay off loans.  Have to look at amount of debt going into and job prospects when coming out.  We paid them off.

PU:  things didn’t get this bad just under this administration but have gotten progressively worse.  1000 days of Obama administration national debt increased by $4.2T, 2.2M jobs lost, 140K added to government payroll.  This administration doesn’t have solutions.

PZ:  these people need to look at the government.  let’s figure out who the job creators are and help them.  They should join the tea party that’s where they belong

Caller:  you are wrong.  Debt.  Debt did increase.  Bush increased, doubled debt in 8 years, lack of regulation, failure to control wall street, led to this crisis.  Tarp approved by Republicans before Obama came in.  How can you say current administration doesn’t have the answers.  This is a very difficult situation.  Obama handled pile of you know what

PU:  it took Pres. Bush 8 years to do what he did.  I don’t agree with everything he did.  Obama has done more damage in 2.5 years than Bush ever did.

PZ:  we just added about $5T to deficit.  Rapid rate under Obama

PU:  can’t afford Obama for 4 more years.  If he gets to appoint another supreme court judge I might as well go home and enjoy what’s left of America

MH:  What do you think of the president’s new proposal

PU:  redistribution of wealth.  Temporary tax cut for businesses but increasing taxes on wealthy and businesses permanent.  Way to increase jobs is to let businesses do what they do best, less regulation.  It’s all about taking from rich and giving to poor. That’s not what America is all about.

PZ:  called a jobs bill but actually another stimulus bill.  Everything he’s done so far has failed.  No way even D’s support his bill.  Will put us further into debt.  Democrats who support his bill are going to lose in election of 2012.  American people are fed up with situation as it is.  Obama owns this economy.
Caller:  is PCN a publicly paid channel?  Should be more minorities, not 2 caucasian women

MH:  PCN receives no public money

PU:  I’m South American.  I’m a minority as well.

Caller:  what is it like when starting an organization, infighting, rumors

PU:  there has been a lot of infighting in tea party movement.  We want to make a difference for our state.  This week alone I’ve been getting calls from media because a tea party group said we have a Nazi sympathizer in our group.  Amazed that tea party people have time to do this when election so close.  To address, yes we have someone on our team who sells WW1 And WW2 memorabilia.  Not by any means a supporter of the Holocaust or mass murders of the 1940s.  some of these groups are using this great patriot to get to us and demoralize us.  Stop talking the talk and walk the walk.  We are buried in work.  I barely have time to see my children.  We need to defeat Obama.

PZ:  if another group shines we all shine.  If they get in the media for doing something great we all shine.  I’m happy when I see another group get the press for something we all believe in.  we need to come together.  If Obama is re-elected because we didn’t come together we can blame ourselves.

Caller:  are you compensated?

PU:  I don’t apologize for being paid.  I’m a paid Freedomworks employee.  I started out as a volunteer.  I’m doing a favor for this country, traveling and lobbying.  To keep up with the fast pace I had to take a paying job.  I’m talking about fiscal responsibility so I’m being responsible by taking a paying job to put food on the table.

PZ:  for 2 years I treated this as a full time job without pay.  If we’re on the radar and someone wants to pay us for what we’re doing, you should be happy.

PU:  I hope someday we can all benefit and take a paycheck.  We are lobbyists and are registered.  We won’t be sued because we are following PA law

MH: Is any of your salary public money

PU:  national grassroots organization out of DC

Caller:  thank God there’s two intelligent ladies like this standing up for paychecks not handouts.  The last thing this nation needs is European socialism.  They are standing up for American values.

Caller:  this discussion interesting.  Freedomworks, who funds?

PZ:  they have several donors. Small donations, large donations, they’ve been at the business of freedom for many years.  Run by Dick Armey and Matt Kibbe.  They’ve really done great work.

PU:  I’m not going to weigh in on something I’m not really sure about.

Caller:  over past 25 years, top 1% gone from 13% of total to 25% of total, income redistribution going the other way.  Supreme court justices.  Do you think Citizens United, which gave corporations ability to donate unlimited sums of money to political campaigns a good idea?

PU:  could be double edged sword, Democrats as well as Republicans will benefit.  There are corporations completely in Obama agenda and we can’t track them.  Same with Republicans

PZ:  I agree.

MH:  corporations as people?

PU:  I would prefer to see people donating out of their own pocket not a corporation

Caller:  disagree.  Agree with less government.  but would not agree with racism in tea party.  Should be more competition in health care and energy.  Certain states have 95% of population using one health insurance company.  Should put local government back in pockets of  citizens.  Republicans don’t want that, keep that with state,.

PZ:  our republic was formed, less government the better, the more localized the better, a politician issue.  I want to see down to our school boards.  Tell people if they are upset about property taxes, run for school board.  Upset about spending, run for local office.  We aren’t paying attention, we are concerned about super bowl and jersey shore.

PU:  all politics are local.  We are 2 moms with 7 children between us.  If we can have a voice anyone can have a voice.  I’m tired of hearing people say they can’t get involved because they are taking kids to soccer and CCD.  Guess what?  I do that too.  Working 60 hours a week.  Don’t just sit on your coach and complain, sipping starbucks.  In Brazil you can’t do that.  Racism?  Don’t see how people see it as racist.  I’m a minority in this county.  Many involved.  One of my best friends is African American and she is involved, on tv all the time.  She’s never been discriminated again.  I’ve never been discriminated against.  Left threated because we have changed the dialog.  This is a way to discredit us.  We have a lot of work between now and 2012.

Caller:  moderate independent.  Talk about redistribution of wealth.  Not against the rich but want all to pay fair share of taxes.  You talk about putting it to the poor.  Do you have a social conscience.

PZ:  you can in this country do anything.  My parents stared with nothing.  That’s the American dream.  Of course we have safety nets.  We need safety nets.  But people need to take care of themselves.

PU:  outside Harrisburg hotel always a line of unemployed sitting there.  Not the job of those who have created jobs and worked hard to support those who haven’t.  This is the land of opportunity.

PZ:  we have a system.  The welfare rolls have grown so much.  I was just talking to someone at soccer on Saturday who’s in the tea party.  The problem is now that when I’m out people want to stop and talk to me about this, in support.  Someone saw a kid looked totally capable of working, in the grocery story using a food stamp card for Gatorade and gum.  That’s what we don’t want to see. This new hipster movement with young capable 20 somethings,  getting food stamps and going to Whole Foods.  That’s not what it was set up for.

PU:  I don’t believe in entitlements.  Other than right to life.  We should just work hard.  That’s the American dream.  That’s why so many people come to this country. 

Caller:  what country are you taking back.  There was an election in 2008 just like there was in 2004 and 2000.  We didn’t go out and scream to take our country back from Bush

PU:  elections have consequences.  We elected Obama.  People take their freedoms for granted.  America is being taken away from the Americans.  Getting progressively worse.  Take this from someone who came from another country.  Lived in Brazil and England.  People are not happy there, want to come here. We are taking our country back.  In the Kitchen Table Patriots we believe electing Obama was a mistake.  Not the change and hope people were looking for. 

PZ:  Under Bush I was criticizing him to my family and neighbors with level of spending.  I understand why people were voting for Obama because they thought the change he was talking about was fiscally responsible level of spending and getting us out of these wars we are in all across the world that I disagree with.  Against spending and wars under Bush.   Now 2 years under Obama still in wars and spending out of control.

Caller:  delighted to hear this dialogue.   What is your take on Herman Cain, 999 plan, now a lot of criticism.  Talk about race card, take back country, take back basis of what made this country great, back to basics, entitlements.  If you want to know what’s going on in this country, watch Judge Judy, a lot of people living on government money

PU:  when we talk about taking back our country, going back to conservative fiscal issues.  Cain a breath of fresh air, no previous ties to either political party.  Stands on principle.  999 plan, devil in details, think it sounds good.

PZ:  we interviewed him on our channel, wkpt on tv.  He knows how to create jobs.  Some will criticize him for not being a politician, I think it’s wonderful.  He can really take on the race issue and end it once and for all.

PU:  I love that he’s an African American.  End talk that tea party is racist.

MH:  endorse in primary?

PU:  no, pick your favorites and vote and work for them.

PZ:  Cain has $1M in bank and some candidates have $50M in bank and he’s plowing ahead.  American dream.

PU:  we will support the Republican nominee.  Anyone running right now would be better than what we have now.  Would support Romney, hope he’s not it, but if he is I would support. 

PZ:  we think we can do better than Romney.  People like Cain and Gingrich.  Don’t let GOP pick the candidate ahead of time.  If people see a candidate they like can make a difference.

PU:  if Romney or whoever gets elected, we will still have to keep their feet to the fire.  Watch every single stop, how they vote.  If not we will find candidates to primary them.

Caller:  regardless of who gets in all the laws in favor of big corporations because all candidates take money from them.  Laws dismantled in 80s and all manufacturing jobs went overseas.  Assured children would have jobs because educated but those jobs overseas too.  Corporations won’t give any jobs to us

PZ:  part of the problem is our corporate tax rate.  Our government is incentivizing companies to move offshore.  999 touchs on our corporate tax rate.  Why would a corporation with our tax laws do the loophole thing that we have.  You have to hire lawyers just to figure out how to keep money.  Take up with your congressman and president.

PU:  we’re not standing up for Republicans here.  There’ s no reason for us to send jobs overseas. 

Caller:  we have to stop sending jobs overseas.  Have to support people who are poor but a lot of people work the system.   

Caller: educational reform, recent temple graduate, in americacorp program via jump start, worked with children trying to prevent illiteracy.  Your views on voucher, school choice

PU:  been involved since summer 2010, big advocates for school choice and school reform.  Last week came out with plan, charter school reform, teacher evaluations.  I’m evaluated on my job.  People in private sector evaluated.  Very happy with governor’s proposal.  That’s why we’re in Harrisburg today talking with legislators about this.  Public school system a failing monopoly.  Do something different rather than pouring money into same thing over and over.  Can’t afford another generation of kids in unemployment line or on drugs or in jail.

PZ:  some controversy with bills not including all students across the state.  Choice and competition gets you the best product.  Right now Corbett’s plan is great.  Studies have shown in pilot programs in other states, can infuse competition in those schools and spread it out.  Look for info at

Caller:  great to see two ladies voicing their opinions.  They are people in power in this country, development of permanent underclass.  Government built projects that resemble prison to accustom them to being in jail.  Took out boys clubs and after schools, saying they should be strong and do it on their own.  President can’t fix damage in two years.  Racism. 

PU:  no racism, not politically correct to say this but Obama is half white.  Pleased to see what Herman 
Cain is doing and he’s full out African American.  Not expect Obama to fix all problems in 2 years but we’re going down socialist path.

MH: community organizations

PZ:  agree, there’s a need an lot of people that are involved in helping communities that need them.

PU:  good if you can stay away from the indoctrination piece of it.  Need to get more people involved.
Caller:  last week state Auditor General Jack Wagner said our debt had doubled since the governor came into office.  A lot gone to debt.  Interest on state debt killing us

PU:  governor did a good job in getting our budget passed on time.  Closing deficit gap.  Cut spending by a billion dollars without increasing taxes.  People want us to give Obama a chance, same goes for Corbett.  He’s really concentrating on delivering this budget on time.  Let’s see what else he can do.

PZ:  As far as debt goes, eventually you reach appoint where you’ll go under.  Have to make really difficult decisions in cutting, kept us from going under.  These are times we all now know we have to tighten our belts.

Caller:  new world order.  What you’re doing is good.  [cut off]

Caller:  I agree with these two wonderful ladies.  Wild abuses of entitlement.  Kids seeking entitlement not employment.  Agree do away with them entitlement.  Put kids [cut off}

Caller:  family came here for freedom to work for and get away from systems there where wealthy had it all.  Called entitlements because we paid in and want something in return

PU:  system is not working , system is failing.  At some point some needs to say it isn’t working.  I’d give it up.  Give up social security.  Let’s try something else.

PZ:  word entitlement.  That’s not part of our constitution.  Freedom is not an entitlement. Not give to you.   God given.  Don’t expect a handout from the government.  Expect to make something of myself.  Want my kids to do that.  But if they see their friends getting a hipster food stamp card and not pay off debt, why would they?  That’s what’s at stake, cultural shift.  Need to sand on my own two feet.

MH:  thanks guests.  

Ansinn and Marseglia on Comment Please

I listened to the taped archive of Oct 21st's Comment Please radio show, hosted by Darryl Berger.  The guests were the Democratic candidates for Bucks County commissioner.  These are rough notes, not intended as a full transcript.  Voters are encouraged to listen to the interview themselves and research the candidates to make an informed decision.  

Comment Please, sponsored by Univest, with host Darryl Berger

Oct 21, 2011

Det Ansinn and Diane Marseglia, Democratic candidates for Bucks County Commissioner
Marseglia incumbent, Ansinn is the Doylestown Borough Council President

Marseglia – bio, social worker in county for 25 years, about 4 years ago I decided one of the best things I could do is help county improve social services

Ansinn – also local, background in business, created businesses, created jobs, board president of library board, bring business acumen to do good things in county.

DB:  minority commissioner a watchdog position?

DM:  many things , many of the employees comfortable coming to me and telling me of problems and I go to newspaper or police or wherever needed.  Now putting county commissioner meeting agenda up days in advance, now have to file applications for county jobs and checking qualifications.  Now someone in charge of keeping track of county cars and who has and how used.  First 3 years I was excluded a great deal, shown materials but not allowed to keep them.  Current county supervisor better about this, still not equal access

DB:  platform points

DA:  number 1 is issue of jobs, Bucks has higher unemployment than neighboring counties.  Problem is county has not taken a proactive role.  Second issue is corruption.  Indictments and guilty verdicts.  Third, county has been deficit spending for last 5 years.  

DB:  what can government do?

DM:  try to encourage people and county to buy America and buy Bucks.  Work on infrastructure.  Problems dredging Del River.  People aren’t going to come here if they can’t get here.  Expand companies that are here.  Best thing we can do is help companies already here.  Zoning problems, regulation problems.  Appoint someone as economic development officer. 

DB:  developing plan and implementing it

DA:  For Commissioner Cawley and former Congressman Murphy put together panel and asked what can county do better.  They put together plan.  First thing is hire an economic development officer.  Marshalling resources in Bucks, county has 7 chambers of commerce, no one providing single point of contact.  Streamlining, easier to do business.

DM:  Teva wanted to be in Warrington went to Philly, hospital in Lower Makefield, no one to direct them to other places in Bucks. 

DB:  Warrington didn’t want Teva.

DA:  Other places in the county would have welcomed them with open arms.  No one directed them there.  Lost to NE Philly.  That’s the problem, don’t have leadership.  Economic initiative is leadership. 

DB:  transportation infrastructure, 202 parkway project

DA:  tough to say, project has gone on so long, that’s just one part of transportation infrastructure.  People don’t know we have a port here in Bucks, Diane had dredged so larger ships could come in.  Project long time in coming.  Pales with what happens in upper part of county, development with no planning.

DB:  enough coordination among different levels of government?  one congressman, state delegation, municipal officials, role of county?

DM:  An economic development officer, could meet with each municipality at least twice a year, better use of planning commission.  Be like Chester County, don’t provide open space money unless project is part of county plan.  Has to be somebody that everyone knows to go to

DA:  We have good people on planning commission, need to be more proactive, need support, shouldn’t shoot down their ideas

DB:  justice center, parking garage, cost about $84M, you have been critical

DA:  in Doylestown this is in our backyard.  Our chief concern, what will happen with old building.  They wanted to knock down old garage, build new building, but no plan on what to do with old building.  County still can’t say how all space in new building will be used.  Don’t know how people will move from parking garage 1000 ft from building to building

DM:  If we’re in office with access to plans and legal teams.  Is it possible for current contractor to continue.  Maybe shift some work to old building. 

DA:  tough thing is, earlier this year before contract award.  A judge said project a rathole.  We need to evaluate.  We need to be in office to do that. 

DB:  was this necessary at all?

DM:  criminal court we did need a new area, criminals and defendants are in same area now, that should change, but we could still use existing 6 courtrooms. 

DB:  nothing similar in area to charges against row officers, Wills area, county workers being coerced into doing political work paid for by county funds.  Trial scheduled for November

DM:  one of about a dozen scandals in last 4 years.  Culture is a problem.  Want to open things up and give a fresh perspective.   Says grand jury report says CEO of county knew what was going on.  It is much bigger than one row dept.  going on for decades. 

DB:  what would you do?

DA:  this is institutionalized corruption.  You have those problems when you have the curtains closed.  Hold people accountability.  $465 M county budget, need transparency, records accountability, how offices operate, campaign finance records.  Regardless of political party can lead to problems. 

DB:  Should county commissioner meetings be morning meetings

DM:  I made a pledge four years ago and making another pledge now.  Hold in early evenings so people can come and see what county commissioners do.  Let people know what happens.

DB:  how many people usually attend

DM:  other than staff and those getting awards at beginning, 5 maybe 6.

DA:  There are actions being taken that affect us.  If you attend one and can make comment.  You can’t speak until end, after commissioners have taken action.  When commissioners taking actions they should know what people think.

DM:  Right now free agenda meeting.  We will meet with department heads ahead of time.

DA:  we took an ethics pledge.  Current commissioners took no action.  We said no politics on county time with county property.  We took 5 point pledge.  Really shouldn’t be necessary.  This is what people expect.  We are committed to that not just as a pledge but these are steps we will take to address it.

DB:  what are other scandals?  Examples of culture of corruption?

DM:  investigation of sheriff’s dept., funds that should have been spent on mental health spent on lunches, Creekside voting place moved and people ordered not to talk about it. 

DB:  wrap up?

DA:  This is not an office people think about but this office makes decisions that affect people’s lives.  You can have the biggest effect on everyday life.

DM:  county provides services.  There are problems.  Increase in number of elderly needing help.  We will be at least $14M short in budget.  Must elect quality people to office.

DB:  campaign site